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	<title>Comments on: To understand social media, marketers must drop the C word</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Y (@piplzchoice)</title>
		<link>http://blog.joelrubinson.net/2009/09/to-understand-social-media-marketers-must-drop-the-c-word/comment-page-1/#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Y (@piplzchoice)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an answer for Ms. Heather Maxwell from General Mills’s rhetorical questions – I am sure that among other things, General Mills wants to be a profitable company. Perennially unprofitable companies have a nasty habit of disappearing from business landscape along with the employment they provide to social media visionaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an answer for Ms. Heather Maxwell from General Mills’s rhetorical questions – I am sure that among other things, General Mills wants to be a profitable company. Perennially unprofitable companies have a nasty habit of disappearing from business landscape along with the employment they provide to social media visionaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Social Steve</title>
		<link>http://blog.joelrubinson.net/2009/09/to-understand-social-media-marketers-must-drop-the-c-word/comment-page-1/#comment-350</link>
		<dc:creator>Social Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel -

Nice ... good capture of ideas, thoughts, and strategy.

I see social media marketing as the &quot;macro&quot; having continuous &quot;micro&quot; campaigns.  I total agree that &quot;Social media is on-going and self-perpetuating&quot; ... you can not just drop it.  It is the equivalent of dropping a relationship (or multiple relationships) and no one wants that.  But social media is a set of integrated campaigns that continue to reinforce the message of the brand, subject matter expertise, and/or delivery of valuable information/data to a target audience.  The campaigns have a limited life (as in the example of Trust Agents by John in a comment above), but as one campaign ends, a new one should surface to maintain conversations and relationships and reinforce value of entity driving the social media endeavor.   For that matter, multiple campaigns can overlap, so long as the conversations are continuous.

Thanks for serving up a great topic,
Social Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel -</p>
<p>Nice &#8230; good capture of ideas, thoughts, and strategy.</p>
<p>I see social media marketing as the &#8220;macro&#8221; having continuous &#8220;micro&#8221; campaigns.  I total agree that &#8220;Social media is on-going and self-perpetuating&#8221; &#8230; you can not just drop it.  It is the equivalent of dropping a relationship (or multiple relationships) and no one wants that.  But social media is a set of integrated campaigns that continue to reinforce the message of the brand, subject matter expertise, and/or delivery of valuable information/data to a target audience.  The campaigns have a limited life (as in the example of Trust Agents by John in a comment above), but as one campaign ends, a new one should surface to maintain conversations and relationships and reinforce value of entity driving the social media endeavor.   For that matter, multiple campaigns can overlap, so long as the conversations are continuous.</p>
<p>Thanks for serving up a great topic,<br />
Social Steve</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
		<link>http://blog.joelrubinson.net/2009/09/to-understand-social-media-marketers-must-drop-the-c-word/comment-page-1/#comment-348</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments.  Our feeling is that social media presence as a commitment to a relationship might be different from social media &quot;campaigns&quot; so it isn&#039;t one big bucket of marketing activity called social media.  BTW, Chris Brogan is speaking at our upcoming event in NY called &quot;Winning with Social media&quot;.  http://www.thearf.org/assets/ilf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments.  Our feeling is that social media presence as a commitment to a relationship might be different from social media &#8220;campaigns&#8221; so it isn&#8217;t one big bucket of marketing activity called social media.  BTW, Chris Brogan is speaking at our upcoming event in NY called &#8220;Winning with Social media&#8221;.  <a href="http://www.thearf.org/assets/ilf" rel="nofollow">http://www.thearf.org/assets/ilf</a></p>
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		<title>By: John McTigue</title>
		<link>http://blog.joelrubinson.net/2009/09/to-understand-social-media-marketers-must-drop-the-c-word/comment-page-1/#comment-347</link>
		<dc:creator>John McTigue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

In general, I would agree, but there are specific cases in which a specific product was promoted via social media channels. Latest successful one I can think of is Chris Brogan&#039;s &quot;Trust Agents&quot; book release. Granted, this &quot;campaign&quot; leveraged Chris Brogan&#039;s existing reputation and social media reach, but there were specific events, webinars, and blog posts targeted at selling the book. So, I think there are cases where the &quot;C&quot; word is appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>In general, I would agree, but there are specific cases in which a specific product was promoted via social media channels. Latest successful one I can think of is Chris Brogan&#8217;s &#8220;Trust Agents&#8221; book release. Granted, this &#8220;campaign&#8221; leveraged Chris Brogan&#8217;s existing reputation and social media reach, but there were specific events, webinars, and blog posts targeted at selling the book. So, I think there are cases where the &#8220;C&#8221; word is appropriate.</p>
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